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我撤回前几天对拓展坞的推荐

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  •   OumaeKumiko 2023-10-29 14:15:41 +08:00 4313 次点击
    这是一个创建于 718 天前的主题,其中的信息可能已经有所发展或是发生改变。

    之前的推荐

    t/985464

    遇到的问题

    我原来用 intel MBP 16 ,连这个拓展坞从 Monterey 用到 Sonoma 一直没问题。

    买了个 M1 MAX MBP ,发现只要开启 BetterTouchTool ,系统会时不不执行触控板的点击操作。( Monterey 12.7-12.7.1 )

    检查到最后,发现原因是大功率充电器(大于 65W )插在 satechi 这个 9 合 1 扩展坞上连接 M1 MAX 的 MacBook 时,拓展坞只有 USB2.0 的速度、并且反复高频断开然后重新连接。

    但是在之前的 intel MBP 上相同的连接方式不会有任何问题。我怀疑是这个拓展坞和 M1 的 Mac 不兼容?

    这个逻辑链条太跳脱了,我检查了五六个小时才终于搞清楚……

    这下我只能再买个贝尔金的拓展坞了。

    测试过程中用到的其它变量

    • 绿联拓展坞:插电源线无此问题,给 Mac 充电功率为「充电器功率-15W 」
    • 绿联拓展坞 2 号,带千兆网口的:插电源线连 Mac 无此问题,给 Mac 充电功率为「充电器功率-15W 」
    • 贝尔金老的那款带千兆网口的 6 合 1 拓展坞,:插电源线连 Mac 无此问题,给 Mac 充电功率为 60W
    • 苹果原装 94W 、140W 充电器,Anker 65W 单口充电器、Aohi 100W 双口充电器:只要连接 satechi 拓展坞时的充电功率到了 65W 这个节点(拓展坞扣掉一点,连到电脑上时的充电功率会低一些),就都有此问题
    • M1 MAX 的 MacBook 每个 C 口都有此问题。

    检测 USB 设备连接的方法

    使用 Hammerspoon 加载这段代码,然后进 Hammerspoon 的 console 看实时 log ,就能看到 USB 设备连接断开的情况:

    usbCOnnectsTimer= hs.timer.new(3, function() usbConnectsTimer:stop() print("> usb connect for devices: " .. usbConnectsDevs) usbCOnnects= 0 usbCOnnectsDevs= nil end) usbDiscOnnectsTimer= hs.timer.new(3, function() usbDisconnectsTimer:stop() print("> usb disconnect for devices: " .. usbDisconnectsDevs) usbDiscOnnects= 0 usbDiscOnnectsDevs= nil end) usbCOnnects= 0 usbDiscOnnects= 0 usbDCWatcher = {} usbMOnitor= hs.usb.watcher.new(function(info) -- iNotify(log,"USB Monitor: " .. info['eventType'] .. " " .. info['vendorName'] .. " " .. info['productName']) local event = info['eventType'] local vendor = info['vendorName'] local product = info['productName'] print("USB Monitor: " .. event .. " " .. vendor .. " " .. product) if event == "added" then if usbDebugAllConns then usbConnectsTimer:setNextTrigger(3) usbCOnnects= usbConnects + 1 if usbConnectsDevs ~= nil then usbCOnnectsDevs= usbConnectsDevs .. ", " .. vendor .. " " .. product else usbCOnnectsDevs= vendor .. " " .. product end end if usbDebugReconns then currTime = hs.timer.secondsSinceEpoch() for i, v in pairs(usbDCWatcher) do if currTime-v>30 then usbDCWatcher[i] = nil end end if usbDCWatcher[vendor .. " " .. product] ~= nil then print("USB Device reconnect occured: " .. vendor .. " " .. product) end end elseif event == "removed" then if usbDebugAllConns then usbDisconnectsTimer:setNextTrigger(3) usbDiscOnnects= usbDisconnects + 1 if usbDisconnectsDevs ~= nil then usbDiscOnnectsDevs= usbDisconnectsDevs .. ", " .. vendor .. " " .. product else usbDiscOnnectsDevs= vendor .. " " .. product end end if usbDebugReconns then usbDCWatcher[vendor .. " " ..product]=hs.timer.secondsSinceEpoch() end else print("Unknown USB event in usb watcher") end end):start() function getUsbDevices() local devs = hs.usb.attachedDevices() local cnt = 0 local res = {} local vendor for i,v in pairs(devs) do cnt = cnt + 1 if v['vendorName'] ~= nil then vendor = v['vendorName'] else vendor = "(no vendor)" end if v['productName'] ~= nil then product = v['productName'] else product = "(no productname)" end table.insert(res,vendor .. " " .. product) end table.sort(res) print("\n" .. table.concat(res,"\n")) print(cnt .. " devices attached") end 

    外设重连、断开的 log 展示

    2023-10-28 21:48:58: USB Monitor: removed VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:48:58: USB Monitor: removed VIA Labs, Inc. USB Billboard Device 2023-10-28 21:48:58: USB Monitor: removed VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:48:58: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:49:00: USB Monitor: removed VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:49:00: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:49:01: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB Billboard Device 2023-10-28 21:49:01: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:49:02: USB Monitor: removed VIA Labs, Inc. USB Billboard Device 2023-10-28 21:49:02: USB Monitor: removed VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:49:02: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:49:02: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB Billboard Device 2023-10-28 21:49:03: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:49:03: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB Billboard Device 2023-10-28 21:49:03: USB Monitor: removed VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-28 21:49:03: USB Monitor: removed VIA Labs, Inc. USB Billboard Device 2023-10-28 21:49:03: USB Monitor: removed VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 

    往下无限add remove循环。

    在 intel Mac 上连这个拓展坞的 log 就这样直接结束:

    2023-10-29 14:18:19: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB3.0 Hub 2023-10-29 14:18:19: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-29 14:18:20: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB3.0 Hub 2023-10-29 14:18:20: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub 2023-10-29 14:18:20: USB Monitor: added Realtek USB 10/100/1000 LAN 2023-10-29 14:18:22: USB Monitor: added VIA Labs, Inc. USB Billboard Device 
    第 1 条附言    2023-11-12 11:41:25 +08:00
    上面的问题是 Monterey 里遇到的。
    升级 Ventura 之后这个问题消失了……
    第 2 条附言    2023-11-12 15:13:52 +08:00
    不对,我搞错了,这个问题还是存在
    17 条回复    2023-10-31 14:47:27 +08:00
    cpstar
        1
    cpstar  
       2023-10-29 14:36:06 +08:00
    DA310 不好使?
    binmiui
        2
    binmiui  
       2023-10-29 14:45:31 +08:00
    DELL DA310 和 CalDigit TS4 非常推荐
    zhandouji2023
        3
    zhandouji2023  
       2023-10-29 14:45:39 +08:00 via Android
    我买了 Apple 的 c 转 a ,c ,hdmi ,感觉够用了
    OumaeKumiko
        4
    OumaeKumiko  
    OP
       2023-10-29 14:52:07 +08:00
    @cpstar @binmiui
    几年前就买过戴尔 DA310 ,连在 surface book 2 上可以听到拓展坞发出明显声音,直接退了然后没用过。
    雷电 4 的就算了,还用不到那么高级的东西
    fanxasy
        5
    fanxasy  
       2023-10-29 18:13:57 +08:00
    我 CalDigit TS4 养老了
    orzjerry
        6
    orzjerry  
       2023-10-29 18:52:01 +08:00
    dock190 洋垃圾。 挺好。
    QingStone
        7
    QingStone  
       2023-10-29 19:11:26 +08:00 via iPhone
    绿联,我是不太敢用
    aerAzLNE
        8
    aerAzLNE  
       2023-10-29 19:20:54 +08:00
    我的建议是,不管啥扩展坞都不要碰和供电相关的东西= =只扩展数据相关的东西就好了
    uleh
        9
    uleh  
       2023-10-29 19:35:13 +08:00
    CalDigit
    除了官方、贝尔金,唯一推荐的扩展坞品牌
    OumaeKumiko
        10
    OumaeKumiko  
    OP
       2023-10-29 20:26:21 +08:00
    @uleh #9 问题是我用的这个 satechi 也是 apple 官方商城在售的品牌
    kkwa56188
        11
    kkwa56188  
       2023-10-29 22:39:46 +08:00
    CalDigit TS4 的视频输出能力略有不足,
    我选择了 DELL WD22TB4, 很猛, 自带内置风扇的
    unneeded
        12
    unneeded  
       2023-10-29 22:46:56 +08:00   1
    我的建议是,Macbook Pro C 口那么多,还有 magsafe ,就不要让拓展坞碰充电了
    Ga2en
        13
    Ga2en  
       2023-10-29 23:51:17 +08:00
    有没有一种可能就是 Apple 已经不是原来的 Apple 了
    https://v2ex.com/t/986533#reply1
    metalman7511
        14
    metalman7511  
       2023-10-30 09:07:17 +08:00
    贝尔金别买了,也是一堆 bug ,直接 caldigit 吧
    OumaeKumiko
        15
    OumaeKumiko  
    OP
       2023-10-30 10:39:30 +08:00 via iPhone
    @metalman7511 啊?啥 bug
    我已经下单了,求解,有啥问题的话我退掉
    metalman7511
        16
    metalman7511  
       2023-10-30 10:49:40 +08:00
    @LoneFireBlossom 和休眠还有显示器有关的 bug ,你可以搜一下贝尔金官网和美国亚马逊 看看评价就知道了
    GoldenSheep
        17
    GoldenSheep  
       2023-10-31 14:47:27 +08:00
    caldigit 太贵了吧
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