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有没有阿里云的员工,我是来吐槽的!

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  •   oatw 2019-08-19 13:48:32 +08:00 6049 次点击
    这是一个创建于 2251 天前的主题,其中的信息可能已经有所发展或是发生改变。

    上午在 code.aliyun.com 建了个项目写 wiki 页面,一上午没写完下午接着写,写完 markdown 之后美滋滋的点击了保存按钮,你猜怎么着?麻痹的会话超时了,直接跳到登录页去了,我担心没有本地存储把写的文档搞丢了,于是就点击了浏览器返回按键,想先 copy 出来,结果点击之后又重定向到了登录页!!!(我理解你出于安全性的考虑,因为会话超时了,你就要登录)没办法,那就登录吧,抱着一丝有 localStorage 存储的侥幸心理,我就登录了,结果尼玛真的是个没有本地存储的 markdown 编辑器,一上午加下午一小时全白写了!!!

    至此决定弃坑了,再也不敢用 code.aliyun 了,也给各位小伙伴们提个醒,能在本地写还是本地写吧,不是啥都能跟 github 比的。

    好了,就这样,我去安抚一下内心奔腾的万屁草泥马~

    23 条回复    2019-08-20 09:09:20 +08:00
    laravel
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    laravel  
       2019-08-19 13:56:45 +08:00
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    laravel
        2
    laravel  
       2019-08-19 13:57:01 +08:00
    哎呀 妈的 不会被禁言吧
    oatw
        3
    oatw  
    OP
       2019-08-19 14:06:12 +08:00
    @laravel 敢不敢告诉我你那个图里被灰色遮住的字是啥
    oatw
        4
    oatw  
    OP
       2019-08-19 14:10:04 +08:00
    @laravel 好吧我猜到了是 难过
    laravel
        5
    laravel  
       2019-08-19 14:10:24 +08:00
    @oatw 我以为是个 url 结果是个 base64
    oatw
        6
    oatw  
    OP
       2019-08-19 14:11:26 +08:00
    @laravel 我 decode 了一下,你这个 base64 有破损,我还自己在结尾加了 //Z
    Liang
        7
    Liang  
       2019-08-19 14:15:04 +08:00
    我也搞不懂阿里云的会话那么短干嘛。。。一个云服务商,又不是银行,而且每个风险操作几乎都有短信验证了(重置磁盘、释放资源)
    oatw
        8
    oatw  
    OP
       2019-08-19 14:21:10 +08:00
    @Liang 感觉可能有点过于谨慎了,反而搞的产品体验不太好,有点得不偿失了。
    loveour
        9
    loveour  
       2019-08-19 14:26:07 +08:00
    最开始的时候想办法调试浏览器,或许可以把内容从内存里复制出来。。
    patrickwhisper
        10
    patrickwhisper  
       2019-08-19 14:28:20 +08:00
    怼他,我支持你
    Nicoco
        11
    Nicoco  
       2019-08-19 14:30:57 +08:00
    与其莫名其妙被套路,
    不如早日拥抱良心云!
    stephen9357
        12
    stephen9357  
       2019-08-19 14:34:50 +08:00
    如果没有关闭浏览器,可以尝试一下从进程堆里提取出来内容,参考《格蠹汇编》第一章。
    oatw
        13
    oatw  
    OP
       2019-08-19 14:38:30 +08:00   2
    @stephen9357 谢谢!不幸的是当时太冲动,已经把电脑砸了,主机已经扔下楼了。。。
    NewDraw
        14
    NewDraw  
       2019-08-19 14:46:59 +08:00 via Android
    @oatw 老哥稳
    keepeye
        15
    keepeye  
       2019-08-19 14:49:59 +08:00
    阿里云控制台也是,正在里面查日志,结果突然就给我跳登录,查询语句都没保存。。现在学乖了,每次都先复制一下再点查询,或者保存为快捷查询

    这 session 管理真矬,不能自动续期吗
    xabc
        16
    xabc  
       2019-08-19 14:50:17 +08:00
    简而言之: 有些云服务商默认把用户当成 SB,在假设你是 SB 的前提下,给你充足的 “保护” ,他们以为这样就是对用户好,真的是太 SB 了

    他们并不知道他们的边界,该做哪些事情,哪些事情是用户自己把控负责的? 如果按他们的逻辑 linux 就不该有 rm 命令

    “ X ” 创造人,给予自由的思想,你可以凭借自己的身心活动做一切自己能做的事情,与此同时,你必须为你的行为负责,这样你才能成长

    可以某些云服务商就是不明白这种浅显的道理
    wengjin456123
        17
    wengjin456123  
       2019-08-19 14:52:59 +08:00
    我觉得安全点挺好的,不过楼主这个确实也是尴尬
    LiuJiang
        18
    LiuJiang  
       2019-08-19 15:17:57 +08:00   1
    阿里云的产品经历就是一坨屎。
    oatw
        19
    oatw  
    OP
       2019-08-19 15:53:37 +08:00
    @Nicoco
    @keepeye
    @xabc
    @LiuJiang

    实话实说,以前自己的小项目为了不备案都是用 DigitalOcean 或者 Heroku,用的时候主要为了干活,真没太注意那些内化到产品里很有品质的一些细节设计。这次是公司的项目,公司用的是阿里云,自己以前真没咋用过。也不是说咱崇洋媚外,但就凭今天我这糟糕的经历真的是挺失望的。
    dandd134
        20
    dandd134  
       2019-08-19 16:06:33 +08:00
    了解收到顶
    zhea55
        21
    zhea55  
       2019-08-19 17:15:30 +08:00
    @oatw 国外都是有独立思维,思考能力的人。


    国内只要 996 拧螺丝的码农,完成任务,了事。能相提并论吗?
    summerpxy
        22
    summerpxy  
       2019-08-19 18:30:12 +08:00   1
    用语雀试试,也是阿里的,当做一个在线笔记非常好用
    catcalse
        23
    catcalse  
       2019-08-20 09:09:20 +08:00
    @zhea55 那国外的人很棒棒哟。
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